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Post by msrwerks on Mar 28, 2008 5:19:49 GMT -8
have pictures of: got the rear 3rd back from ken at gearinstalls.com also received the cryo treated seals and bearings from him as well. waiting for him to send me a link to the write up he does on the installs he does. i will post it as soon as he has it up. do not have pictures of:have all of the rear end pieces sand blasted and por 15'ed. that work is pretty time consuming! not to mention very messy! (no blasting cabinet... yet  ) also installed my original helper springs after sand blasting and por 15'ing them to the new spring packs. then hung both new rear springs. this weekend i am hoping to get the rear end back together and installed along with the rear disk brake conversion i have had sitting in boxes for almost a year now pictures...   
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Post by Slacker on Mar 29, 2008 15:27:57 GMT -8
Zuk does good work , from what I understand .. I cant vouch , but i'm sure you will .
I know the "blasting" part .. even with a cabinet , it's no fun .. anyway , looking good my friend .
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Post by msrwerks on Mar 29, 2008 18:30:55 GMT -8
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Post by b4runner on Mar 29, 2008 22:37:38 GMT -8
Very Cool!! Yep I have brake envy  What did are you using and is there a provision for an E-Brake or are you going to have to do a Transfer case brake like what FROR has? |
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Post by msrwerks on Mar 30, 2008 12:10:56 GMT -8
hi robb...
yes. those pics with the springs on the back side of the calipers is the emergency brake mechanism. i will have to figure out how to attach them to the existing cable. from what i have read about them they either work decently or they are really crap, but depends on the way they are hooked up. we will see!
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Post by Slacker on Mar 30, 2008 15:05:22 GMT -8
Michael , whos kit is that ? .
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Post by msrwerks on Mar 30, 2008 15:15:06 GMT -8
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Post by b4runner on Mar 30, 2008 15:26:39 GMT -8
hi robb... yes. those pics with the springs on the back side of the calipers is the emergency brake mechanism. i will have to figure out how to attach them to the existing cable. from what i have read about them they either work decently or they are really crap, but depends on the way they are hooked up. we will see! Kind of what I thought, but I am not really familiar with GM brakes. Just old V-Dub and getting a little better with Toyotas. Thanks for the info on the brake kits. Something to thing about down the road. Curious if you had a chance to contemplate your possible 4Runner back seat conversion idea? |
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Post by msrwerks on Mar 31, 2008 4:12:22 GMT -8
Curious if you had a chance to contemplate your possible 4Runner back seat conversion idea? i think i have come up with something in the back of my head for using the 4runner rear seats. i just have to get it measured out and on paper. i took everything out of the 4runner for the rear seat. all of the brackets for the seats. even the ubolt looking things the rear seats lock to in the upright position. i also got the roll bar out of the 4runner which looks like in an earlier model maybe the rear seat belts bolted to. so i might incorporate that into it as well. (it will have to be cut down to fit in the trekker) have to get it on the frame first |
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Post by msrwerks on Mar 31, 2008 18:04:01 GMT -8
got the shocks back on and the wheels back on. there is a little more then 1/8" clearance between the wheels and the calipers  i guess this will be ok. i dont see how it could be any different.  question... i was looking at pictures of peoples trucks (robbs included) and land cruisers and i am thinking there might be something wrong with something. arnt my shackles suppose to be diagonal AWAY from the spring pack instead of towards the spring pack? (this is a picture looking towards the passenger side rear shackle towards the back of the frame) i got the dimensions out of the factory shop manual for the distance between the centers of the two spring mounts (45.14") and both of mine are dead on. (i did not have any problem hanging the springs either. they bolted right in) it seems if the rear shackles were longer they would point towards the rear of the truck? maybe? will they at least move to the straight up and down position when the fuel tanks have fuel in them and the trekker is on the frame?  |
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Post by Slacker on Apr 2, 2008 16:22:11 GMT -8
cool Michael .. progress !
rear caliper and rim should be ok .. as there is NO movement there .. I dont think heat will expand them enough to cause any problems , but offroading , mud and crap might get in there and create a problem ? maybe ? good thing is YOU built it , you know about it .
also , the springs should "sag" .. once you get some weight on it , and actually start driving it .. it'll "sag" a bit .. I think you'll be ok ..
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Post by Slacker on Apr 3, 2008 17:03:15 GMT -8
Michael , I dont think you have those on quite right .. skys site shows -----> different  so ... if you unbolt them .. and package them up .. I will buy them ! really .. I will . |
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Post by msrwerks on Apr 3, 2008 17:39:43 GMT -8
hmm... well, i didnt see that picture before i installed them, i read this article.... www.pirate4x4.com/productreviews/skybrakes/i will look at them this weekend and see if i cant get them to match up to sky's picture. thanks for the info corey! if i sold them to you i wouldnt have any rear brakes because i took great pleasure in pitching everything related to the rear drum brakes in the trash question... you wouldnt happen to know the capacity of a 1986 4runner fuel tank would you? - never mind... found it 17.2 gallons no matter the model in 1986. |
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Post by msrwerks on Apr 6, 2008 17:57:00 GMT -8
the rear disk brake mystery i think is solved...this picture from sky's shows them mounted to a newer wider axle. newer then 1982. i think in 1984 or 1985 they made the rear axles 5/8's of an inch wider on each side. here is a pic of mine... 2.875" from edge of spring perch to back of axle bearing plate.  here is a picture of a 1986... 3.5" from edge of spring perch to back of axle bearing plate.  here is what happens when you mount everything up according to sky's picture on a narrower axle like the trekkers.  the emergency brake linkage is jammed up against the rear spring pack. that extra 5/8's of an inch in the axle makes a big difference here! also. i originally mounted these before i hung the rear end. when i went to take them off to move them around i realized that the spring pack was in the way of one of the caliper pins on each side. so i had to pull the bracket off with the caliper to get the caliper pin out. not very conducive to changing the rear pads. so now here is how i have them mounted.  this allows emergency brake bracket clearance.... (that is the stationary part of the bracket which sticks out even more then the part that actually moves)  and also allows clearance for the caliper pins...  the only thing this caliper position does not allow for is bleeding while the caliper is mounted. (because the bleeder valve is pointing down in this position) but at least i can remove the caliper easily now and they only have to be bled this once or after the brake system comes apart again for some reason. which should be a very long time from now since everything will be new.
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Post by Slacker on Apr 7, 2008 6:14:07 GMT -8
good points Michael , sorry , I didnt mean to put you threw that ..  but I guess at least you know now .. and so do we . great job . |
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) also installed my original helper springs after sand blasting and por 15'ing them to the new spring packs. then hung both new rear springs.
What did are you using and is there a provision for an E-Brake or are you going to have to do a Transfer case brake like what FROR has?
i guess this will be ok. i dont see how it could be any different.