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Post by Okiyota on Feb 19, 2008 6:21:00 GMT -8
Those are my intentions, I have done a lot of research on this swap before and it was always hard to find a writeup that had the small details, the little nickle and dime BS that always comes up during any kind of swap, I'm sure I left out some details up to this point, but I'm trying to get as much useful info as possible.
-Oki
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Post by Slacker on Feb 19, 2008 7:18:43 GMT -8
yes .. Awesome detail . when I did the white one (5 years ago) .. I had everything listed and detailed on my computer . when a customer pics up there unit , I always hand over a disc , like a photo album of the build .. well lets just say , I dont have the info anymore , but i'm smarter now so did you notice how loud the pump was ? did it sound ok ?
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Post by b4runner on Feb 19, 2008 9:04:37 GMT -8
Yes, great info, it will come in handy if I can make the eventual conversion. OT: You have been able to do all this while in the Air Force?? I picked the wrong branch (Army) was gone all the time But thanks for helping to protect the Country ;D Keep the info coming
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Post by Okiyota on Feb 19, 2008 11:33:55 GMT -8
Thanks guys.
Yeah I noticed the pump, not as loud as I was expecting, but still louder than normal. Like I said though, thats fine with me, I'll know if it ever stops working, and honestly, I dont think I'll even notice it when I'm in the truck.
Yep, in the AF, for two more days that is. Thursday is my last day, and I'm pretty much done now, I have seperation appts all this week.
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Post by Slacker on Mar 1, 2008 16:08:19 GMT -8
any progress ?
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Post by Okiyota on Mar 2, 2008 15:17:47 GMT -8
Not lately, my radiator showed up, and I figured out what to do with the charcoal canister, just havent had time to work on it this past week, been helping a buddy get his rockcrawler together. Hopefully I'll get some things done on it soon!!
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Post by Okiyota on May 12, 2008 8:23:20 GMT -8
WOW! Its been two months and I have hardly touched it! However, I did spend a month out of town for my new job, Oklahoma City sucks, sorry to anyone that lives there. I was going crazy without the mountains!! I really have no other excuse for the month prior to the time spent in OKC, other than I was just busy with other things.
Hope to make some more progress this week (even if it is just a little) as I get time in the evenings after work.
I did get the mounts for the radiator built and TIG welded on, right now it is just mocked in place until I get some new hoses. It all bolts up to the original mounts and clears the hood just enough. I'll get some pics of it all soon. Still undecided on what I want to do about the fan, stock one and build an aluminum shroud or get an electric fan?
What I'd like to get done this week is pulling all of the harness out of the donor truck, it is mostly loose, just need to label and unplug a few more things and pull it all out. Then we (Boing and I) can sit down and start figuring out what needs to stay and go to put it in the Trekker.
More progress and pics to follow soon (hopefully)
-Oki
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Post by boing on Jul 1, 2008 5:31:52 GMT -8
Alright I have been working on the harness diagram for this swap the last two weekends pretty hard... As soon as oki gets back from okc we will start on the wiring... 3rd gen 2wd engine and harness....
Interesting side note 2wds don't have a knock sensor!!! that i can find...
And all of my drawings are based on the engine wire loom of a 4wd, I hope they are the same!
I have my drawings for this however there are about 3 of them at 8.9 MB a piece, if any body wants them i will give them out freely... (I would post them to the site, from my photo bucket account but it will cut them down to 800X600 they are HUGE...)
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Post by Okiyota on Jul 7, 2008 8:05:23 GMT -8
So I've been slacking a little on the updates, and progress all together. So to catch up a little, here is the radiator with the mounts I made welded on, its a Howe radiator and is acutally for a Ford according to their specs, it is 19" tall and 22" wide if I remember correctly, which is the same size as the factory Toyota radiator... As you can see in this picture the bottom spout is angled up about 30 degrees, it needs to be cut off and rotated so that it comes off the radiator at a 90 degree angle in order for it to have room to clear the fan blades and to get the hose on it correctly. If I had known about this in the beginning I probably would have ordered a different radiator, but it isn't a huge deal and can be fixed relatively easy with the die grinder and tig welder ;D ...
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Post by Okiyota on Jul 7, 2008 8:08:04 GMT -8
And now for the real update... IT RUNS!!!! This weekend Boing and I put in some time and made some more headway with the wiring. We pulled the rest of the wiring harness that was going to be needed out of the donor truck along with the ECU... Then stripped that down to only the wires that were needed to make the truck run... Then, by the direct intervention of a source of higher power (Boing) we were able to lace all the spaghetti together in the correct fashion, with the help of jumper cables, solder, and zip ties and acutally get the truck to start! Being that there was no coolant system in the truck we only let it run for a few seconds, but it fired right up and sounded good, even though the engine had not been started for 1,116 days! At this point we knew we had the wiring correct. Funny thing is, it only took 5 wires from the entire harness to make the truck run!!
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Post by Okiyota on Jul 7, 2008 8:10:24 GMT -8
Once we figured out what was needed to make it run, we were able to cut open the old wire loom and start adding our wires and pulling them through the dash. As you can see in this pic, there is a second rubber grommet with a harness going through it into the interior, Boing MADE me drill another hole in my firewall, against my will I might add, to run the harness from the donor truck to the inside to mount the ECU. I'm pretty sure I could hear my Trekker screaming, begging me to stop as the hole saw was ripping its way through her flesh, I cried a little. But it turned out clean and looks like it came that way from the factory... Here are a few shots of behind the dash, the first pic is the mess of wires before we had them all soldered correctly and zip tied together nicely... The second pic is of the two relay's we bought, the front one is used for the starter and the rear one is tripped when the key hits the run position... All the wires are tied up nice and clean now and the relays are mounted, I just didnt get any pics yet of it all cleaned up. Now that we have the IH1 plug finished all that is left for the harness is the IH2 plug, which i think is only going to use 4 wires, so lots to cut out but not too much to run. After that just clean it all up, run it and wrap it all neat and the wiring is finished!! I know by the pics it doesnt seem like a lot was done, but there was a lot of time spent reading the diagrams that Boing created, ringing out wires tracing crap down and trying to figure out what was needed, it was a huge step in the right direction and seriously would not have been done without Boings help, he is the man when it comes to wiring and I'm going to talk to his boss about giving him a raise!! Here is a video of the truck starting for the first time with the 22RE!!!
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Post by Okiyota on Jul 7, 2008 8:31:06 GMT -8
So now thats all up to speed, I still need to figure something out for my VSS, I originally posted a picture of one from Marlins website and after talking to them thought I was going to be able to use one of theirs, however after getting it in the mail and checking it out for real, it will not work and I have to find another one. Boing found a company that sells VSS's for V8 conversions, it looks as though I might be able to use one of theirs. They list two different applications... One is a two-pulse with 22 mm metric threads and .187 tang drive which fits Toyota transmissions and transfer cases. The other is the same specifications, but a four-pulse. So I'm not sure if I need 2 or 4, more research coming.
I also need to do some research on the alternator. I need to figure out if my donor truck had an externally regulated alternator. The Trekker does, and the IC Regulator is mounted on the driver side fender well. I dont remember taking one off of my donor truck when I started chopping it up, and we can not find any leads or plugs that look as though they would have gone to an external regulator. Tricky part is that I went to Checkers website and searched for and IC Regulator for a 94 2wd 22RE and they do list them, so now I'm not sure if I had one and took it off and ditched it 3 years ago or if some didnt come with them. I think the solution to this will be the GM alt. It will be less wiring, more amps, and I wont have to be scared of a dash fire everytime I start my truck because I didnt wire in a regulator.
I also need to shorten my fuel line that Whistler Bearing made for me. When I had it made I didnt get exact measuerments and shot for a little extra as opposed to a little too short thinking I could just tuck the excess out of the way. It ended up being about 10-12" too long I'm thinking, so I'm going to take it back to them and have them cut out about a foot of it, I'll get exact measurements this time!!
So still a ways to go, but its getting there and I cant wait to get it back on the road, I miss driving it so much!
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Post by b4runner on Jul 7, 2008 8:38:40 GMT -8
Nice write up and Video proof to boot. Sounds like you are happy with the progress I know I would be ;D
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Post by Okiyota on Jul 8, 2008 16:43:06 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm happy with it all so far. Going to work on it some more tomorrow afternoon, more pics to follow.
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Post by boing on Jul 8, 2008 20:24:16 GMT -8
So very stoked that this motor sounds so good! We have a total of six wires left
(Tach, water temp, oil pressure, brake light switch for the ECU, VSS will be completed later, check engine light)
As well as the alternator wiring... Which i have already mapped in my truggy project...
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